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Charles Nungester (Offline)
  #11 9/29/24 4:30 PM
Originally Posted by kendirt:
You saw that Eldora just set a single-day attendance record Saturday of the World right?

Yeah and you have a hell of a lot less Super LM racing all together. So yeah, everyone's hitting the few shows there are.

Charles Nungester
Frank Reiner (Offline)
  #12 9/29/24 4:47 PM
Tastes in spectator sports are constantly changing, and the in the area of motorsport both the machines and the owners tend to follow the evolution. The notable exception to this evolution is that group of cars and owners that continue to field a suspension combination that was last used on an American passenger vehicle in 1948. That is to say, a beam front axle and a torque tube live rear axle.
Late Models, both pavement and dirt, have evolved suspension-wise. The live rear axle is still there, but the torque tube is long gone, and independent front suspension provides more grip on both pavement and dirt.
The promoter at any entertainment facility will, and does, pay attention to the car configurations that sell; it is, after all, business.
Midgets and Sprint Cars were, for a long time, a primary path to both Indy Cars and Nascar. Both of those top tiers are changing quite fast; the Indy Cars have their own Formula car progression series, and Nascar is drawing more and more on a variety of junior door car classes leading through Late Models into ARCA.
What draws a crowd in the top tiers will have a strong influence on the feeder series; they will emulate the top tiers.
kendirt (Offline)
  #13 9/29/24 11:07 PM
Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
Yeah and you have a hell of a lot less Super LM racing all together. So yeah, everyone's hitting the few shows there are.
Just so I understand...

You're saying there are fewer SLM events than there are non-wing open wheel events?
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767 (Online)
  #14 9/30/24 7:12 AM
Originally Posted by kendirt:
You saw that Eldora just set a single-day attendance record Saturday of the World right?
Didn't the 4 crown have the largest crowd it is ever had? Like it or not, there is a big PR machine behind Eldora. Combine that with big PR behind the LM and HiLimit. Your going to see huge crowds.

As much as I hate to say it, the more cookie cutter the tracks are, the easier they are to dominate. Yes across all big series they are becoming hard and slick.
Charles Nungester (Offline)
  #15 9/30/24 9:22 AM
Originally Posted by kendirt:
Just so I understand...

You're saying there are fewer SLM events than there are non-wing open wheel events?

Im saying theres less SLM Races period. Not events. Heck Cincinnati had four tracks within a hour and a half that ran SLMs in the 80s- Brownstown, Burg, Atomic and Florence every Saturday night and the all had full fields.

People are going to less races too, just choosing the ones to go too. Both World and North South were sold out.

I always thought Smoke would either build a second level to the main grandstand or a pier'd grandstand on the back straight over the creek.

Charles Nungester
Charles Nungester (Offline)
  #16 9/30/24 9:29 AM
That last night reminded me why I love this sport. Tracks no setup is going to be perfect on. A track where everyone messes up at some point and a track that someone trying something different may just pay off.

She was one spot short of winning that thing and if you ask me, she got screwed on the yellow. Jade made some fans last night for sure!

Thanks to IMS and all involved for pulling that off. It'd been easy and understood if they called it and took a bigger loss. That's for the love of the sport. All involved.

Charles Nungester
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