[Dale]

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester Blah, Blah, Blah blah blah blah, USAC's done, over, nobody wants to run it, Blah. The champions always move on or retire yet it continues and is still the best racing in the overall scheme of things. it also makes it more incentive for locals to run the shows when they could crack the top five possibly and not hope to crack the top ten In either discipline they're going to have to compete against top teams. While each takes huge sums of money to run full time. It's still probably half to run USAC. I've seen many leave and basically not be able to continue due to fundage. Not finishing well getting fired because either the car owner sees someone else as better or someone else can bring backing. I got no idea who HAR will hookup with or if. All I know is that Rob said it was his desire to at least make the 100 mark. And I couldn't tell you even if I did until they release the info themselves.. Several guys out there that would like to try full time or all full time USAC but need more to be competitive.

Wasn't Bacon basically renting the Hoffman name?

[Charles Nungester]

Originally Posted by Dale Wasn't Bacon basically renting the Hoffman name?

I got no idea how the deal worked. HAR may buy the rollers. I do know that during their 2014 championship season they used one chassis. They had a second car but only used it once after he flipped in qualifying it was just precaution chassis was fine.


What I meant was twice the cost. Rebuild are at least twice as fast, maybe three times more often Winged. Fuel. A winged car easily uses a third more. They don't even run 25 lappers at Knoxville anymore for reg shows. While they may be using the same motors in usac, They're torque curve is different and if your woo or HL your travel is a ton more than usac.

[SpfldMile]

I still think USAC is a really good option for guys that want to be home more. It’s a national series, but the schedule is definitely Midwest centered, kinda like the All Stars were centered in OH/PA. Everyone wants USAC to pay more, but that money has to come from somewhere. I figure Flo is bankrolling the High Limit shows to some extent. They could help out if they wanted. In any case, I will still go to non wing shows, they are often better racing, and I’ll go to wing shows too.

[dsc1600]

Winged racing has always paid more but there was probably a time when if you could win consistently in USAC amongst the 3 divisions coupled with the better access to pavement opportunities made USAC a great option.

Those days are long gone and it’s looking more and more like USAC is a feeder division to WoO and High Limit.

[kendirt]

I just watched T-Mez TV's latest episode.

He put it out there that he's down to do more wing racing than he already has been.

[oldfan49]

The progression from sprint cars to NASCRAP and winded cars has been the norm for quite a time. And the demise of USAC has been there all that time. But every time a Larson or Bell or Sunshine moves on a new crop od superstars show up.
People always say USAC is an Indiana thing but when USAC or back when the SCRA comes to Ok, Ks, Mo area stands were packed to the point that one year the fire Dept made Lakeside quit selling tickets.
Biggest problem is sprint car fans come for the racing. Most NASCRAP, winged car, and late model fans come for the party, a lot of them I ask don't even know who won the race the next day.
USAC is way behind in their marketing strategy.

[Therealether]

I wasn't aware USAC had a marketing strategy 🤣

[yeleyfan76]

Originally Posted by kendirt You think Spridge was with him when he won his two WoO races? Or made the A-mains at Knoxville and the King's Royal this year? Seems like people don't get that he's already fast in a winged car.

We were to believe he was fast in a non wing car too. That doesn’t change what happened in Macon. This will be the third go round for him leaving for winged racing. I hope he is semi successful so he doesn’t feel the need to return.

[flagboy55]

My favorite racing club has always had its ebb’s and flow’s. It’s always been a feeder system providing the greatest race car drivers of all time. The landscape and destination’s have changed too. Since the Outlaws put forth the propaganda of the Greatest Show On Dirt, they’ve become the most popular form of Sprint Car racing. Hell, kids growing like Pursley probably never even saw Hewitt or Shuman, Vogler, not to mention the giant’s of racing. But they did see Schatz and were exposed to the propaganda machine, and therefore it’s not unreasonable to see a younger crop of racer’s aspiring to be an Outlaw, and now also maybe a High Roller. I thought I would miss Big Daddy and Sunshine, turns out I really didn’t. My biggest disappointment with the current turnover is not getting to see what Daison could do running all 3 divisions for a couple years. Brady has already accomplished a ton in USAC. So good luck to them both, we’ll be watching. Meanwhile USAC might have a down year or two, but it’ll come back, always does

[Charles Nungester]

Rodgers, Moles, Drake, If Swanson can find a full time ride. Think Leary and Grant are still good for a couple more years. Possibly Kayala. TALL, Cale Coons? Im sure there's a few Im missing.