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11/5/19, 10:11 PM |
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You have any, any shred of evidence that Roger has much regard for dirt track racing? Has he run a dirt track, a dirt track team? Roger Penske is a good business man, but hardly a friend or supporter of short track America. Heck, the guy has NEVER run an Indy Lights team, you know, what is supposed to be the feeder series, the stepping stone, the Road to Indy. I don't hate Penske and I think he's a great guy to have running a business. He has more resources than the Hulman George family. However, you gloss over a lot of things other than the money (alleged figures) Tony George dropped. How about the $300 million the sisters lost to Bernie Madoff, only a portion of which was recovered. Or that the business was sold to an octegenraian who can be expected to live how long. Or that he has his own sons with baggage. Or, that he once said that the wealthy patrons of the St. Pete GP were the kind of people Indy Car needed to attract? Because I'm not a millionaire, is my ticket money somehow worth less? Blab on all you want about 1996-there were huge mistakes on both sides and CART owners acted (and some like Yoda still act) as arrogant as NFL owners. But I keep in mind Roger Penske was part of an organization that used some questionable tactics to attack people in 1978 and 1979, and part of an organization that boycotted the Speedway in 1996 and ran a race against the Indianapolis 500. None of those things had to happen as well. Plus, here is a guy who protested vehemently the 25/8 rule and now wants guaranteed spots in the 500. Hows that NASCAR charter system working? I think Roger will be a great steward of IMS, the facility. Say what you want about Tony George, but he took great care of the place too. But I hold out no hope that Roger will ever try to keep or enhance a connection with the dirt track fans who have been buying 500 tickets for 30, 40, 50 years and I really doubt that his won't have advantages in the ICS when the rules are written. |
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11/5/19, 10:29 PM | #32 | |
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Brickyard, obviously you’re very knowledgeable of the Speedway, but you seem to have an axe to grind. You say, and I agree with the endorsements you quoted, but I think those are relative, in that Penske buying it is much better than an investment firm with obliviousness to the sport.
Honestly I don’t think the BC39 means anything in the big picture. I would doubt its profitable, and would not be if not attached to the nascar race. I’m sure this is probably the best transaction possible, but I think it will have its share of pain. I didn’t think CART cared about it’s fans, Roger was part of that if I remember correctly? I hope I’m wrong |
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11/5/19, 11:03 PM |
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Regardless, from the bit of the press conference I did see, Tony George did NOT look defeated or that Roger saved him from the poor house. Seemed like he was ok with it all and looking forward to the next stages of his life, as well as all of this (hopefully as a partner in Ed's team for him???).
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11/5/19, 11:34 PM | #34 | |
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I didn’t realize how old Penske is, 82. I wonder what his succession plan is for the Speedway since it is not likely he will run it for long. Not trying to be negative but will he be around long enough to make great things happen?
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11/6/19, 12:03 AM |
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That's what i don't get. Tony G is much younger. It must be a figure that the Hulman's couldn't resist. I think and hope RP will be a good steward though. The guy you have to give him credit. He brought the super bowl to downtown Detroit and pulled it off. Long gone are the high speed ovals. Yet the road race people don't complain about the speeds at Indy. The cart people must be doing back flips over this news. I am not thrilled over this but hey these are my thoughts.
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11/6/19, 1:10 AM |
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11/6/19, 10:21 AM |
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I won't claim to know the numbers, but there are Indy Car fans that lost interest because of CART's actions, that came back when the IRL was formed.
I was one of them. |
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11/6/19, 10:46 AM |
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Me, i followed Indy cars back in the 70s-80 when the men in the cars were the same ones at eldora terre haute, the miles.
Tried to stay interested into the 90s. To me that sport has nothing in common with short track racing anymore even if a few came from it.
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11/6/19, 12:35 PM |
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If the Speedway was to be sold, there probably is not a better buyer than Roger Penske.
I think F1 coming back to Indy will fly. I think the Indy500 is almost bigger than any person or organization, so how do you keep improving? I think Roger is that type of person, you can probably trust your great grand children will be hearing "Back Home Again In Indiana" with a race following. |
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