Toyotas involvement in open wheel racing?

RacinFool · 11/22/07, 10:34 AM

With Toyotas continued involvement will we be seeing the cost of doing buisness rise??(motors)............As with any new corprate input there will again be a widening gap between the haves and have nots. I would like to know others thoughts.:icon_smile_blackeye

SpfldMile · 11/22/07, 10:39 AM

I'd like to think not, but if you look to the past to predict the future, it sure looks like it. Hopefully tire, engine, weight, or all of the above rules can be tweaked to keep lower dollar motors competetive.

RacinJason · 11/22/07, 12:04 PM

I dont think the Toyota will have any huge advantage in sprint cars. Guys are running some sweet American made motors that would be hard to compete with. The only way this new motor could raise the prise of racing is if YOU buy one. If everyone continues to buy good old American made parts as we have been then Toyota will have nothing.

This ones for you Toyota:moon:

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LocalYokel · 11/22/07, 3:33 PM

It really hasn't effected the midgets thus far. I think the Toyota sprint motor will be like the Fords were years back, just a novelty item.

But say what you will, Toyota employs more Hoosiers than GM does...:doh:

11/22/07, 4:02 PM

F**K TOYOTA and the rising sun they rode in on. They will ruin sprints just like everything else American they touch. Kick all this foreign crap out of the country and lets get back to basics. Open your eyes and realize that foreign enitys are causeing the demise of American business and the lack of American sponsors and fueling the fuel price hikes all pointed at the demise of our sport. And now they want us to buy their motors B S. People better wake up or we will all be sitting at home watch Nascrap run battery powered cars with a 60 minute pitstop to recharge. and they will only race 60 miles.

Pat O'Connor Fan · 11/22/07, 4:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RacinJason

If everyone continues to buy good old American made parts as we have been

Like those XXX Chassis ??

I doubt that much, if any, of the Toyota midget or sprint/SC engines are manufactured outside the US (exception being that some don't think California is really part of the US :emote20

11/22/07, 4:30 PM

It doesn't matter where they build them its all part of them and the Asian countries beating us economically since they couldn't do it militaryly. you can bet they are sitting there laughing their azzes off at us as we buy into the,(well they make it here and they employ americans ( for dirt wages compared to the old union wages) crap) And we continue to blindly follow on down the road to being a 3rd world country. Do the race a lot of sprint cars in China or siri Lanka, or Korea, or Japan, or Pakastan, Man we are doomed with that thought pattern. time to get things back in the USA or forget about our lifestyles entirely. Home repossesions are up to 33% and 10 bucks an hour is considered a good wage. What has happened to us.? Young folks don't know about or care about sprint cars. Notice the only young guys in the pits are drivers or driver wannabes. Guys pay attention to whats happening around us.

RacinJason · 11/22/07, 5:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LocalYokel

But say what you will, Toyota employs more Hoosiers than GM does...:doh:

What are their wages? Not good. How about the benefits? Most don't have any. Where do you think the profits are going? Into the workers pockets? NOPE. Into foreign pockets it goes. If we told all the Jap car companies to hit the boat what would happen? Better wages! More quality jobs! Profits staying in AMERICA!!!!

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pgray · 11/22/07, 6:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sprint 98j

Kick all this foreign crap out of the country and lets get back to basics.

How long ago did those "basics" exist ?
The US would be lucky to enjoy third-world status !

Toyota coming out to play in our Great American Sport is not our greatest problem. The real problems existed long before Toyota ever gave us a second thought. Think about it.

Paul

DonRacer · 11/22/07, 6:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgray

How long ago did those "basics" exist ?
The US would be lucky to enjoy third-world status !

Toyota coming out to play in our Great American Sport is not our greatest problem. The real problems existed long before Toyota ever gave us a second thought. Think about it.

Paul

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
-George Orwell

11/22/07, 3:33 PM	#4 Re: Toyotas involvement in open wheel racing?
LocalYokel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 412	It really hasn't effected the midgets thus far. I think the Toyota sprint motor will be like the Fords were years back, just a novelty item. But say what you will, Toyota employs more Hoosiers than GM does...:doh: __________________ You better take care of me, Lord. If you don't you're gonna have me on your hands.

11/22/07, 10:34 AM	#1 Toyotas involvement in open wheel racing?
RacinFool Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 612	With Toyotas continued involvement will we be seeing the cost of doing buisness rise??(motors)............As with any new corprate input there will again be a widening gap between the haves and have nots. I would like to know others thoughts.:icon_smile_blackeye

11/22/07, 10:39 AM	#2 Re: Toyotas involvement in open wheel racing?
SpfldMile Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,329	I'd like to think not, but if you look to the past to predict the future, it sure looks like it. Hopefully tire, engine, weight, or all of the above rules can be tweaked to keep lower dollar motors competetive.

11/22/07, 12:04 PM	#3 Re: Toyotas involvement in open wheel racing?
RacinJason Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 111	I dont think the Toyota will have any huge advantage in sprint cars. Guys are running some sweet American made motors that would be hard to compete with. The only way this new motor could raise the prise of racing is if YOU buy one. If everyone continues to buy good old American made parts as we have been then Toyota will have nothing. This ones for you Toyota:moon: .

11/22/07, 4:02 PM	#5 Re: Toyotas involvement in open wheel racing?
sprint 98j Posts: n/a	F**K TOYOTA and the rising sun they rode in on. They will ruin sprints just like everything else American they touch. Kick all this foreign crap out of the country and lets get back to basics. Open your eyes and realize that foreign enitys are causeing the demise of American business and the lack of American sponsors and fueling the fuel price hikes all pointed at the demise of our sport. And now they want us to buy their motors B S. People better wake up or we will all be sitting at home watch Nascrap run battery powered cars with a 60 minute pitstop to recharge. and they will only race 60 miles.

11/22/07, 4:30 PM	#7 Re: Toyotas involvement in open wheel racing?
sprint 98j Posts: n/a	It doesn't matter where they build them its all part of them and the Asian countries beating us economically since they couldn't do it militaryly. you can bet they are sitting there laughing their azzes off at us as we buy into the,(well they make it here and they employ americans ( for dirt wages compared to the old union wages) crap) And we continue to blindly follow on down the road to being a 3rd world country. Do the race a lot of sprint cars in China or siri Lanka, or Korea, or Japan, or Pakastan, Man we are doomed with that thought pattern. time to get things back in the USA or forget about our lifestyles entirely. Home repossesions are up to 33% and 10 bucks an hour is considered a good wage. What has happened to us.? Young folks don't know about or care about sprint cars. Notice the only young guys in the pits are drivers or driver wannabes. Guys pay attention to whats happening around us.