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3/17/22, 9:16 PM |
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Tire Dopers
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Grant and Stockton confirmed tire dopers.
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3/17/22, 9:29 PM | #2 | ||
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I was told it was for the outlaw xtreme series. Either way very disappointed in both of them. Especially JG since he runs the team.
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3/17/22, 9:32 PM | #3 | ||
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. It doesn’t matter if it’s a local show, Xtreme or USAC, cheating is cheating. From what I hear USAC is going to be announcing some penalties also.
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3/17/22, 9:44 PM |
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Penalty / Fine Notice
Competitor: Justin Grant – TOPP Motorsports #4 Series: Xtreme Outlaw Sprint Series Event Location: Volusia Speedway Park, De Leon Springs, FL Date: February 14, 2022 Event and explanation: Tire samples were taken February 14, 2022 at Volusia Speedway Park. A total of 1 tire was sampled (after completion of the feature event) using the accepted practice of the Xtreme Outlaw Sprint Series utilizing the team provided grooving iron and sample cuts taken by crew members. Samples were logged, bagged and sealed with the signature of the represented crew member. Specimen cuttings were sent to an independent laboratory for testing of chemically altering substances in the tires in a comparative analysis. The test revealed the tire had been altered and did not match or conform to the benchmarks provided by Hoosier Tire Company. Additional analysis verified the initial laboratory findings. The Xtreme Outlaw Sprint Series rulebook reads as follows regarding altering tires in any way. Section 9 Tires Hoosier MEDIUM, or H15 are the only approved right rear tires for competition. Teams must utilize Hoosier tires on all four corners. Any member that attempts and/or is found to be using tires that are found to be illegal in any manner will be subject to disqualification and/or fine and/or suspension and/or loss of points and/or any other action deemed appropriate by World Racing Group Supervisory Officials. The minimum penalty for any tire that does not meet the benchmark will be as follows: Disqualification from the event and; A fine up to 1,000 championship and track points and; Return of all earned purse and/or reward money from the event and; A fine up to equal the purse money awarded for the event with a minimum fine of $2000 and; A minimum suspension of 1-month minimum or 4 races, up to six (6) months in duration and; Any cost incurred for testing The penalty including fine and suspension may include the driver, crew chief, the car and car owner as stated in the penalty notice. TIRE PROTESTS: Tire protests may involve any tire. The fee will be $500 ($50) per tire. The protest will require the confiscation of the tire(s) protested. The tire(s) involved in the protest will be shipped by World Racing Group to the authorized laboratory for benchmark testing. The determination of the facility will be final and non-appealable. Penalty / Fine: Disqualification from the event at Volusia Speedway Park, February 14, 2022, including loss of all purse money and championship points earned in the event(s). (Purse money total $2,500.00) $120.00 tire analysis fees. A fine of $2000.00. Total due including loss of money, fine and tire analysis of $4,620.00 A suspension from the next 2 Xtreme Outlaw Sprint Series events for Justin Grant and the TOPP Motorsports #4. Any subsequent violations may result in a higher fine schedule and/or additional loss of points and/or suspension (including indefinite) and/or parking of the team. |
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3/17/22, 9:45 PM |
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Penalty / Fine Notice
Competitor: Chase Stockon Series: Xtreme Outlaw Sprint Series Event Location: Volusia Speedway Park, De Leon Springs, FL Date: February 15, 2022 Event and explanation: Tire samples were taken February 15,2022 at Volusia Speedway Park. A total of 1 tire was sampled (after completion of the feature event) using the accepted practice of the Xtreme Outlaw Sprint Series utilizing the team provided grooving iron and sample cuts taken by crew members. Samples were logged, bagged and sealed with the signature of the represented crew member. Specimen cuttings were sent to an independent laboratory for testing of chemically altering substances in the tires in a comparative analysis. The test revealed the tire had been altered and did not match or conform to the benchmarks provided by Hoosier Tire Company. Additional analysis verified the initial laboratory findings. The Xtreme Outlaw Sprint Series rulebook reads as follows regarding altering tires in any way. Section 9 Tires Hoosier MEDIUM, or H15 are the only approved right rear tires forl competition. Teams must utilize Hoosier tires on all four corners. Any member that attempts and/or is found to be using tires that are found to be illegal in any manner will be subject to disqualification and/or fine and/or suspension and/or loss of points and/or any other action deemed appropriate by World Racing Group Supervisory Officials. The minimum penalty for any tire that does not meet the benchmark will be as follows: Disqualification from the event and; A fine up to 1,000 championship and track points and; Return of all earned purse and/or reward money from the event and; A fine up to equal the purse money awarded for the event with a minimum fine of $2000 and; A minimum suspension of 1-month minimum or 4 races, up to six (6) months in duration and; Any cost incurred for testing The penalty including fine and suspension may include the driver, crew chief, the car and car owner as stated in the penalty notice. TIRE PROTESTS: Tire protests may involve any tire. The fee will be $500 ($50) per tire. The protest will require the confiscation of the tire(s) protested. The tire(s) involved in the protest will be shipped by World Racing Group to the authorized laboratory for benchmark testing. The determination of the facility will be final and non-appealable. Penalty / Fine: Disqualification from the event at Volusia Speedway Park, February 15, 2022, including loss of all purse money and championship points earned in the event(s). (Purse money total $1,800.00) $120.00 tire analysis fees. A fine of $2000.00. Total due including loss of money, fine and tire analysis of $3,920.00 A suspension from the next 2 Xtreme Outlaw Sprint Series events for Chase Stockon and the KO Motorsports #5s Any subsequent violations may result in a higher fine schedule and/or additional loss of points and/or suspension (including indefinite) and/or parking of the team. |
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3/17/22, 10:51 PM | #6 | ||
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So I am curious why the suspensions are for the next two events when the series rules states the minimum suspensions for any tire violations is one month or 4 races minimum? 🤔
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3/18/22, 7:07 AM |
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Im not doubting the findings, However I think samples should be taken before a feature in the lineup shoot. Say someone dumps oil or anti freeze or brake fluid on the track and cars run thru it. IMHO that can change the compound. Wouldn't be so sure some armor all wouldn't either.
Guess they know what their doing but in the world of racing I was around, You mounted it up, grooved it and raced. if you did it at the shop sometimes you put it out in the sun to try to stretch it a bit so you could get a better more acurate stagger reading
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3/18/22, 7:20 AM | #8 | ||
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3/18/22, 8:20 AM | #9 | ||
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2 sides to every story. Oddly enough, first time racing with the new series and this happens...2 of the best guys and teams in USAC nonwing Sprints. Hopefully JG and Chase get a chance to tell their side of the story and it comes out that it was a mistake or misunderstanding one way or another by someone somewhere and it wasnt just flat out cheating on purpose. Usually cheating of any sort gives you an edge, sure didnt give them an edge did it. Couldn't have cheated too badly.
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