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1/8/08, 10:39 AM   #1
Going back in time
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Why doesn't the Hoosier Hundred and Hut Hundred go back and run in September, with one being on a Saturday afternoon and the following Sunday afternoon? Why did that get changed in the first place? It upset the race gods and now look what's happened!!:headbang:
 
1/8/08, 8:30 PM   #2
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The crowds were way down in September and I think another thing that had a lot to do with it was when George Snider got thrown out after winning the Hulman Hundred for being too light Foyt was pissed and pulled out of promoting the Hulman and the Hoosier. Therefore they were having a hard time finding someone to promote both races. I can remember being at the Hoosier the last time that they ran it in the daytime and it was a fiasco. Foyt overwatered the track and it was terrible and then USAC official Carl McCormick was ran over on the track after the yellow had been on for 3/4 of a lap. Personally I would love to see it moved back to September. Like the old Hoosier Hundred shirt said: It`s autumn, It`s Indianapolis, It`s the Hoosier Hundred !
 
1/8/08, 11:47 PM   #3
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That's why Foyt should stick to owning instead of promoting!!!
 
1/9/08, 6:58 AM   #4
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LOL I won`t disagree with that !
 
1/9/08, 8:08 AM   #5
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Doesn't Seargent promote both Terre Haute and the Indiana State Fairgrounds now?

Same promoter at both tracks and personally I think Bob does a great job with all the races he promotes.

If the Hut was moved back to Terre Haute couldn't we ge the Hoosier Hundred back in September on the second weekend? That could be a little hard on the Champ Car owners but would be a great 4 races streak with Springfield, DuQuoin, ISF, and Eldora in a 7 week period. They would all have a good turnout for both races because they have a midget race to go with them. Macon the night before the Springfield race, POWRi has the DuQuoin mmidget races indoors, ISF would have the Hut the afternoon before, and of course the 4 crown at Eldora.

How many midget teams have a Champ Car? They could easily bring both cars on the trip couldn't they?
 
1/9/08, 10:53 AM   #6
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I know people say that you must change with the times, but some things should stay the same. When I think of the Hut Hundred, I think Terre Haute; Same with the ISF and the Hoosier Hundred. Put it back the way it used to be and they will come!!!
 
1/9/08, 12:34 PM   #7
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I know people say that you must change with the times, but some things should stay the same. When I think of the Hut Hundred, I think Terre Haute; Same with the ISF and the Hoosier Hundred. Put it back the way it used to be and they will come!!!
From Jim Morrison

When the Hoosier Hundred and the Hut 100 were on back-to-back days, Don Smith promoted the Hoosier Hundred and the Terre Haute Action track. This was back in the 1970s and early 1980s. When Smith ceased his promotions, the dates began to drift apart. The Hoosier Hundred remained strong for several years because: 1. it was traditionally the richest dirt race in the country; 2. Indy 500 veterans still raced in it; 3. A.J. Foyt Jr., still ran it. Much of Foyt's participation stemmed from his loyalty to Smith, who assisted him early in his career while a struggling midget and sprint driver.

In the mid-1980s, a second Dirt Car (called Silver Crown today) was created to run the last Friday in May -- the Hulman 100. For the next 15 years or so, there were two Silver Crown races with the Hoosier 100 in September and later August slowly losing spectators. The Hulman 100 remained strong thanks to it being on the same weekend as the Indy 500.

With different promoters operating Terre Haute and the State Fairgrounds, the Hut 100 and the Hoosier 100 drifted apart. By the 2000s, the decision was made to only have one Silver Crown race. With the Hulman Hundred date being the strongest, the May date was retained. However, there was great affection for the Hoosier 100 so the race was renamed the Hulman/Hoosier 100.

On the USAC radio show on Monday night, Kevin Miller said a new management group for Terre Haute is in place but had not been announced. While not saying who they were -- deferring to the management group to make its announcement -- he did say it was not Bob Sargent. That means there's still two management groups promoting the two races. Plus, if I remember correctly, one of the stated reasons the Hoosier 100 was not rescheduled after last year's rainout was that the May date being the only one Sargent believed would be financially successful -- the original reason for the Hoosier 100 no longer being a late summer race.

So having the Hoosier 100 and the Hut 100 on back-to-back dates again in September, or August, seems highly unlikely.
 
1/9/08, 1:19 PM   #8
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Years ago Foyt promoted the two day SCRA show at Manzy. If i remember there were 4 days of racing. Two days of World of Outlaws then two days SCRA to make a long weekend. All of this during the real Copper Classic! The ticket prices were five bucks a night nigher than a Hall promotion show. Hall was the person running Manzy at the time.

If the shows don't draw the people there won't be any racing.:headbang:
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1/9/08, 4:23 PM   #9
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From Jim Morrison

When the Hoosier Hundred and the Hut 100 were on back-to-back days, Don Smith promoted the Hoosier Hundred and the Terre Haute Action track. This was back in the 1970s and early 1980s. When Smith ceased his promotions, the dates began to drift apart. The Hoosier Hundred remained strong for several years because: 1. it was traditionally the richest dirt race in the country; 2. Indy 500 veterans still raced in it; 3. A.J. Foyt Jr., still ran it. Much of Foyt's participation stemmed from his loyalty to Smith, who assisted him early in his career while a struggling midget and sprint driver.

In the mid-1980s, a second Dirt Car (called Silver Crown today) was created to run the last Friday in May -- the Hulman 100. For the next 15 years or so, there were two Silver Crown races with the Hoosier 100 in September and later August slowly losing spectators. The Hulman 100 remained strong thanks to it being on the same weekend as the Indy 500.

With different promoters operating Terre Haute and the State Fairgrounds, the Hut 100 and the Hoosier 100 drifted apart. By the 2000s, the decision was made to only have one Silver Crown race. With the Hulman Hundred date being the strongest, the May date was retained. However, there was great affection for the Hoosier 100 so the race was renamed the Hulman/Hoosier 100.

On the USAC radio show on Monday night, Kevin Miller said a new management group for Terre Haute is in place but had not been announced. While not saying who they were -- deferring to the management group to make its announcement -- he did say it was not Bob Sargent. That means there's still two management groups promoting the two races. Plus, if I remember correctly, one of the stated reasons the Hoosier 100 was not rescheduled after last year's rainout was that the May date being the only one Sargent believed would be financially successful -- the original reason for the Hoosier 100 no longer being a late summer race.

So having the Hoosier 100 and the Hut 100 on back-to-back dates again in September, or August, seems highly unlikely.
I agree, that was so long ago that the tradition was lost, never to return.

Let us just be glad there might be a Hut and a Hoosier 100, no matter what the dates are.
 
1/9/08, 8:53 PM   #10
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If it wasn't such a "big nut to crack" ($$$$$) I' ll bet it would work as a 2 day event at one track.

It was a fun weekend when we had that going between ISF and THAT
 
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