Crate sprints?

PatrickMead#13 · 12/4/12, 2:32 PM

Had a guy ask me at work the other day about a local track he heard had a crate engine non wing sprint series. He couldn't recall which track but he said they ran the 602 and 604 crate engine with 4bbl carbs. I haven't heard of one here in Ohio but I guess my thought was why isn't there something like this or is there. Thanks

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racerjim2 · 12/4/12, 2:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aftermidnight

Had a guy ask me at work the other day about a local track he heard had a crate engine non wing sprint series. He couldn't recall which track but he said they ran the 602 and 604 crate engine with 4bbl carbs. I haven't heard of one here in Ohio but I guess my thought was why isn't there something like this or is there. Thanks

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There's no crate class sprints but there is a 305 class which is the same idea as a crate class. The 305's in northern Ohio are a strong class with lots of cars.

PatrickMead#13 · 12/4/12, 2:52 PM

Cool. That's what I thought. He just swore he was going to build one and try it out. Attica is what I'm thinking for the 305's right?

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Bad Dad 54 · 12/4/12, 5:09 PM

Seen those 305, got a lot of hi priced parts on them, they can run w/ non wing 410's at Fremont & win. There are 305classes at Fremont, & Attica. Plus there is a 305 pavement traveling sprint class. They put on a good show too

tim kelley · 12/4/12, 5:45 PM

The 305 class, I have been told can be very expensive. Had a friend tell me that you can get almost as much in a 305 as a 410. If we're looking for a cost saver, the create motors seem to be the way to go. A create motor ran at Waynesfield and was very competitive. Even the front runners are starting to run short of cash. Either a create division, or a steel block club that puts limits on motors. Sprint Cars are my love. Lets keep them together!

PatrickMead#13 · 12/4/12, 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tim kelley

The 305 class, I have been told can be very expensive. Had a friend tell me that you can get almost as much in a 305 as a 410. If we're looking for a cost saver, the create motors seem to be the way to go. A create motor ran at Waynesfield and was very competitive. Even the front runners are starting to run short of cash. Either a create division, or a steel block club that puts limits on motors. Sprint Cars are my love. Lets keep them together!

That was his thing. He used to run late models and he just couldn't compete on the kind of budget we're both used to. He wants to go race sprints and at a local level but not on a national budget as he said.

Do a crate with a single 4bbl and simple ignition and that's it. Something in the neighborhood of $4000 or less in the engine setup would put a lot of rollers back together and on a track. I kinda see where he's meaning by all this.

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cmiracingvids · 12/4/12, 6:08 PM

It's all about enforcing the rules. You can have all the rules in the world...but they're nothing unless you check and enforce them. Checking them is the hard part.

The MSA sprints up der in Wisconsin seem to be doing well with their "sealed after tech" steel block 360 motors. And you can get a front running motor for 7 grand.

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PatrickMead#13 · 12/4/12, 6:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmiracingvids

It's all about enforcing the rules. You can have all the rules in the world...but they're nothing unless you check and enforce them. Checking them is the hard part.

The MSA sprints up der in Wisconsin seem to be doing well with their "sealed after tech" steel block 360 motors. And you can get a front running motor for 7 grand.

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Very true. Being on top of tech is key to any series for it to keep it together. Reminds of the kart racing days. Come off the track for weight, fuel, compression, and a high five for meeting the rules or a kick in the butt when you didn't.... Lol

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hoosierhillbilly · 12/4/12, 8:20 PM

At one time dave blaney was involved in a crate sprint series that ran at the sharon speedwAy. They ran crate corvette motors. I saw the once and there were 10-12 cars. I don't think they are around anymore.

As for Fremont/attica, those 305s apparently started as a junkyard class but they have Gotten pricey. A long thread on pitgate.

http://www.pitgate.com/thread-14992.html?highlight=305

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PatrickMead#13 · 12/4/12, 9:16 PM

Wow...lol. That pitgate discussion went way out in left field fast but some of it makes sense about 15-30000 305 engines kinda kill the "budget" for the little guys such as me.

From Looking into it some more, it might be the way I'm gonna go for my dad's sake. He retired and wants to try something open wheel so I'm thinking of obtaining a nice roller and doing a crate 4bbl setup for him to learn / have a blast with for a little guy budget such as mine. He wanted to try my #13 car but what can i say, can't fit a tuna in a sardine can.....

(sorry pops)

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12/4/12, 2:32 PM	#1 Crate sprints?
PatrickMead#13 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 954	Had a guy ask me at work the other day about a local track he heard had a crate engine non wing sprint series. He couldn't recall which track but he said they ran the 602 and 604 crate engine with 4bbl carbs. I haven't heard of one here in Ohio but I guess my thought was why isn't there something like this or is there. Thanks Posted via Mobile Device

12/4/12, 2:52 PM	#3
PatrickMead#13 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 954	Cool. That's what I thought. He just swore he was going to build one and try it out. Attica is what I'm thinking for the 305's right? Posted via Mobile Device

12/4/12, 5:09 PM	#4 Re: Crate sprints?
Bad Dad 54 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 717	Seen those 305, got a lot of hi priced parts on them, they can run w/ non wing 410's at Fremont & win. There are 305classes at Fremont, & Attica. Plus there is a 305 pavement traveling sprint class. They put on a good show too

12/4/12, 5:45 PM	#5 Re: Crate sprints?
tim kelley Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 165	The 305 class, I have been told can be very expensive. Had a friend tell me that you can get almost as much in a 305 as a 410. If we're looking for a cost saver, the create motors seem to be the way to go. A create motor ran at Waynesfield and was very competitive. Even the front runners are starting to run short of cash. Either a create division, or a steel block club that puts limits on motors. Sprint Cars are my love. Lets keep them together!

12/4/12, 6:08 PM	#7
cmiracingvids Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,319	It's all about enforcing the rules. You can have all the rules in the world...but they're nothing unless you check and enforce them. Checking them is the hard part. The MSA sprints up der in Wisconsin seem to be doing well with their "sealed after tech" steel block 360 motors. And you can get a front running motor for 7 grand. Posted via Mobile Device

12/4/12, 8:20 PM	#9
hoosierhillbilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 603	At one time dave blaney was involved in a crate sprint series that ran at the sharon speedwAy. They ran crate corvette motors. I saw the once and there were 10-12 cars. I don't think they are around anymore. As for Fremont/attica, those 305s apparently started as a junkyard class but they have Gotten pricey. A long thread on pitgate. http://www.pitgate.com/thread-14992.html?highlight=305 Posted via Mobile Device

12/4/12, 9:16 PM	#10
PatrickMead#13 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 954	Wow...lol. That pitgate discussion went way out in left field fast but some of it makes sense about 15-30000 305 engines kinda kill the "budget" for the little guys such as me. From Looking into it some more, it might be the way I'm gonna go for my dad's sake. He retired and wants to try something open wheel so I'm thinking of obtaining a nice roller and doing a crate 4bbl setup for him to learn / have a blast with for a little guy budget such as mine. He wanted to try my #13 car but what can i say, can't fit a tuna in a sardine can..... (sorry pops) Posted via Mobile Device