Greg Newman v. Purdue (Interesting

2/20/08, 5:40 PM

Newman's dad reveals grudge vs. Purdue: If Greg Newman has anything to say about it, none of the $1.5 million his son earned for winning Sunday's Daytona 500 will be going to Purdue University. #12-Ryan Newman graduated from Purdue in 2001 with a degree in vehicle structural engineering. But his father, who made a college degree a prerequisite for supporting Ryan's racing aspirations, said Purdue doesn't deserve to share in Ryan's good fortune. Ryan was racing on weekends and won the 1999 U.S. Auto Club Silver Crown title while attending Purdue. But he wasn't recognized by the school as being a student-athlete, his father said, and thus wasn't allowed any scheduling flexibility with his assignments. "They should have helped him, but they didn't cut him any slack," Greg said. "They didn't recognize him as being a racer. Now they do." Purdue assistant athletic director Tom Schott said he wasn't sure how to respond to the elder Newman's complaints. "We have 18 varsity sports here, but we don't have varsity auto racing," Schott said.(Indianapolis Star)(2-20-2008)

AlkyMadness · 2/20/08, 6:40 PM

Maybe I'm wrong thinking this way, but I wish Greg Newman would just shut up. He's stealing the spotlight from Ryan big time and it's starting to come off like a big case of self-promotion.

Since Sunday's win, the majority of the sports page articles in North Carolina papers have been about Ryan's father. Instead of being one of the spotters, you'd think he drove the car.

This latest thing with Purdue tops the cake. Ryan is a grown man and he can make his own decisions about what to do with his winnings (maybe a muzzle for Dad?). Apparently, he can't understand that the NCAA controls what constitutes a student-athlete and what they are allowed to do. Besides that, student-athletes are supposed to be AMATEUR. As in, they don't earn any money or winnings. Last I heard, in 1999, USAC was paying drivers a purse in Silver Crown.

Greg just needs to stand back, celebrate, and be proud.

This is becoming too much like other high profile parent-athlete relationships.

2/20/08, 7:08 PM

Good point. In fact the NCAA could fine Purdue for them even marketing that..

I know even around our area of a few drivers not being able to play high school sports because of racing because they were "professional athletes", granted someone had to tell on them.

Tyler
www.tylershoemakerracing.com

Jerry Spencer · 2/20/08, 7:19 PM

Josh wrestled and raced (raced for money) we checked with the people at the top and Josh was considered a amateur because he did not get paid to wrestle. The rule stated you could not be paid in the sport you were involved in, Wrestling, Baseball, Basketball etc. I know because someone turned us in trying the same crap and it did not work.

Jerry #66j
www.joshspencer.com

illiNOISE · 2/20/08, 7:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler Shoemaker

I know even around our area of a few drivers not being able to play high school sports because of racing because they were "professional athletes", granted someone had to tell on them.

Couldn't they have gotten around that by making sure the check was made out to their car owners, usually also known as their parents?

illiNOISE · 2/20/08, 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler Shoemaker

he wasn't recognized by the school as being a student-athlete, his father said, and thus wasn't allowed any scheduling flexibility with his assignments.

Why should Ryan have been treated any different than any other student holding a job outside of class? Don't they all get the same 16-week syllabus at the start of each semester? If he knew he had a big race when a project or paper is due, why couldn't he have asked the prof if he could turn it in early?

Tony74 · 2/20/08, 8:20 PM

Yeah, most professors here (Purdue) work with you when you give them a good advance on when your not able to show up to a class or test. I've never had someone not take early projects/papers/homework.

Though, I would like to see someone throw down some money and construct a Motorsports Building at Purdue!!

:crying: I'm still upset from last night....

2/20/08, 8:30 PM

Yeah, here in IL it was an IHSA rule. Maybe they are different between IL and IND??
Yes ILLNoise, that could have happened but if originally you didn't know and the checks were made to the driver you were screwed.

I will go back and look.

Tyler
www.tylershoemakerracing.com

Charles Nungester · 2/20/08, 8:37 PM

Under NCAA they still couldn't consider someone racing for money a student athlete. Ryan did. There is no case and no reason Perdue should have granted him any Athletic breaks

Chuck, saying if the college basketball player plays for the Nicks on weekends only and gets paid, he's disqualified.

2/20/08, 9:45 PM

I am a Purdue graduate and was actually a member of the Freshman class entering Purdue with Ryan Newman and couldn't be prouder...not of that fact that Ryan was a fellow Boilermaker but because the school is a great place to get an education and to grow as an adult. I cannot agree more with anyone who says that Ryan's dad needs to stop running his mouth and let Ryan do any bashing that he feels is needed, if any. The fact is when he entered NASCAR he used his engineering degree from Purdue as much as Purdue is using his celebrity status now, if not more. Do you think Purdue is sending the media a release each week touting Ryan as a Purdue Engineering grad? No, that would be his PR people using it as a differentiating aspect to the typical background of most drivers in the field.

Every year since my graduation in May 2000 I receive my annual alumni magazines and periodic emails updating news on the school, who's doing what these days and so forth and I have NEVER seen one word written about the Ryan being a fellow alumni. Maybe that will change now that he has won the big one but we'll have to wait and see about that but it certainly wouldn't align that only wants to "recognize" him now.

Yes, it is great publicity for the school to say it graduated a Daytona 500 champion but I can guarantee you that those in charge are probably more proud of the fact that many of founding fathers of the space program are Purdue grads or that they have graduated thousands of individuals who are making or have made a difference in the world in which we live in since 1869.

That's my opinion anyway. Boiler Up!

2/20/08, 8:37 PM	#9 Re: Greg Newman v. Purdue (Interesting - from Jayski.com)
Charles Nungester Senior Member Race Count This Year: 6 Race Count Last Year: 14 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21,731	Under NCAA they still couldn't consider someone racing for money a student athlete. Ryan did. There is no case and no reason Perdue should have granted him any Athletic breaks Chuck, saying if the college basketball player plays for the Nicks on weekends only and gets paid, he's disqualified. __________________ Charles Nungester

2/20/08, 5:40 PM	#1 Greg Newman v. Purdue (Interesting - from Jayski.com)
Tyler Shoemaker Posts: n/a	Newman's dad reveals grudge vs. Purdue: If Greg Newman has anything to say about it, none of the $1.5 million his son earned for winning Sunday's Daytona 500 will be going to Purdue University. #12-Ryan Newman graduated from Purdue in 2001 with a degree in vehicle structural engineering. But his father, who made a college degree a prerequisite for supporting Ryan's racing aspirations, said Purdue doesn't deserve to share in Ryan's good fortune. Ryan was racing on weekends and won the 1999 U.S. Auto Club Silver Crown title while attending Purdue. But he wasn't recognized by the school as being a student-athlete, his father said, and thus wasn't allowed any scheduling flexibility with his assignments. "They should have helped him, but they didn't cut him any slack," Greg said. "They didn't recognize him as being a racer. Now they do." Purdue assistant athletic director Tom Schott said he wasn't sure how to respond to the elder Newman's complaints. "We have 18 varsity sports here, but we don't have varsity auto racing," Schott said.(Indianapolis Star)(2-20-2008)

2/20/08, 6:40 PM	#2 Re: Greg Newman v. Purdue (Interesting - from Jayski.com)
AlkyMadness Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 233	Maybe I'm wrong thinking this way, but I wish Greg Newman would just shut up. He's stealing the spotlight from Ryan big time and it's starting to come off like a big case of self-promotion. Since Sunday's win, the majority of the sports page articles in North Carolina papers have been about Ryan's father. Instead of being one of the spotters, you'd think he drove the car. This latest thing with Purdue tops the cake. Ryan is a grown man and he can make his own decisions about what to do with his winnings (maybe a muzzle for Dad?). Apparently, he can't understand that the NCAA controls what constitutes a student-athlete and what they are allowed to do. Besides that, student-athletes are supposed to be AMATEUR. As in, they don't earn any money or winnings. Last I heard, in 1999, USAC was paying drivers a purse in Silver Crown. Greg just needs to stand back, celebrate, and be proud. This is becoming too much like other high profile parent-athlete relationships.

2/20/08, 7:08 PM	#3 Re: Greg Newman v. Purdue (Interesting - from Jayski.com)
Tyler Shoemaker Posts: n/a	Good point. In fact the NCAA could fine Purdue for them even marketing that.. I know even around our area of a few drivers not being able to play high school sports because of racing because they were "professional athletes", granted someone had to tell on them. Tyler www.tylershoemakerracing.com

2/20/08, 7:19 PM	#4 Re: Greg Newman v. Purdue (Interesting - from Jayski.com)
Jerry Spencer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,869	Josh wrestled and raced (raced for money) we checked with the people at the top and Josh was considered a amateur because he did not get paid to wrestle. The rule stated you could not be paid in the sport you were involved in, Wrestling, Baseball, Basketball etc. I know because someone turned us in trying the same crap and it did not work. Jerry #66j www.joshspencer.com

2/20/08, 8:20 PM	#7 Re: Greg Newman v. Purdue (Interesting - from Jayski.com)
Tony74 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 945	Yeah, most professors here (Purdue) work with you when you give them a good advance on when your not able to show up to a class or test. I've never had someone not take early projects/papers/homework. Though, I would like to see someone throw down some money and construct a Motorsports Building at Purdue!! :crying: I'm still upset from last night....

2/20/08, 8:30 PM	#8 Re: Greg Newman v. Purdue (Interesting - from Jayski.com)
Tyler Shoemaker Posts: n/a	Yeah, here in IL it was an IHSA rule. Maybe they are different between IL and IND?? Yes ILLNoise, that could have happened but if originally you didn't know and the checks were made to the driver you were screwed. I will go back and look. Tyler www.tylershoemakerracing.com

2/20/08, 9:45 PM	#10 Re: Greg Newman v. Purdue (Interesting - from Jayski.com)
HOT227 Posts: n/a	I am a Purdue graduate and was actually a member of the Freshman class entering Purdue with Ryan Newman and couldn't be prouder...not of that fact that Ryan was a fellow Boilermaker but because the school is a great place to get an education and to grow as an adult. I cannot agree more with anyone who says that Ryan's dad needs to stop running his mouth and let Ryan do any bashing that he feels is needed, if any. The fact is when he entered NASCAR he used his engineering degree from Purdue as much as Purdue is using his celebrity status now, if not more. Do you think Purdue is sending the media a release each week touting Ryan as a Purdue Engineering grad? No, that would be his PR people using it as a differentiating aspect to the typical background of most drivers in the field. Every year since my graduation in May 2000 I receive my annual alumni magazines and periodic emails updating news on the school, who's doing what these days and so forth and I have NEVER seen one word written about the Ryan being a fellow alumni. Maybe that will change now that he has won the big one but we'll have to wait and see about that but it certainly wouldn't align that only wants to "recognize" him now. Yes, it is great publicity for the school to say it graduated a Daytona 500 champion but I can guarantee you that those in charge are probably more proud of the fact that many of founding fathers of the space program are Purdue grads or that they have graduated thousands of individuals who are making or have made a difference in the world in which we live in since 1869. That's my opinion anyway. Boiler Up!